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« on: June 01, 2010, 09:28:14 PM »

for any of you who dont frequent local fishing forums there is a law in canada that is being strictly enforced.  If you go into canada to FISH you must call canada border services agency and possibly go into a port. ill post a few discussions on where ive been reading it. i for one will not be getting a license until this changes.

http://www.lakestclair.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=80270

http://www.greatlakesbass.com/forum/index.php?topic=7745.0
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« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2010, 09:26:55 PM »

an update

http://www.lakestclair.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=80797
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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2010, 09:27:44 PM »

Dan, thanks!

This has far-reaching implications, more than just the OCBA. The MBI and other circuits are affected.

Additional news came out today that may make this a mute point - http://www.lakestclair.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=80797

I am researching this and will come up with current/substantiated information before our next meeting.

Mark R.

EDIT: On the same wavelength at the same time! LOL
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« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2010, 06:05:33 PM »

Guys

    Do not listen to either of these web sites when it comes to the candian stuff. The is the same topic every year about the same thing. The rules have not changed if you land or ancor in Canadian water you must call them and let them know. This is what I know from talking to the Canidain officer at the Novi show.
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« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2010, 09:11:59 PM »

i wont be going on land or anchoring in canada anytime soon. it was just the fact that if you stop(even drifting and fishing) at all in canada you need to call, and John "Mini" wouldnt be a reliable source he said he called and talked to them

and another guy posted this response from CBSA



A directive was issued by CBSA Headquarters this year that outlined the obligations of Private Boaters to report in. For non-residents the requirement stated that any non-resident entering Canadian waters, whether or not they have dropped anchor or docked, was required to report in a designated marina. The situation was the same for Canadian residents traveling in US waters.

There were logistical and practical challenges that his directive presented to each of the regions. Those concerns were forwarded to our headquarters and a subsequent directive was issued that indicated that adherence to the previous memo was to be suspended pending further review and consultation.

Admittedly, this has been frustrating and confusing for all involved including the boating community, my staff at the Telephone Reporting Centres and our Marine Patrols.

Until any further direction is received we will revert back to past practice of requiring a call in for persons with the intent to drop anchor or dock in Canada.

I hope this clarifies the situation.



Paul Susko

Chief of Operations

Windsor Tunnel Operations



so yes brian you are right, but those are the only reasons according to this
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« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2010, 12:37:08 PM »

Guys,

Here are the results of my lengthy investigation into this issue.

I called the main number and got one answer, called back for more clarification five minutes later, got another person on the line and got a different answer. When pressed, the second person sent me to the Superintendent in the office that patrols St. Clair. I'm not going to post his name, office number of cell number. I have it if needed.

He said that:

-- The old rule was that if you entered "Canada" (including mooring, anchoring, touching land, etc.) you need to call in, report to the CBSA office, have passport ID, dates of birth, etc. etc. etc.
-- In December, 2009, the rules were changed to say that when you entered "Canadian waters" you need to call in, report to the CBSA office, have passport ID, etc. etc.
-- Recently the rule was changed back to it's original form as above.
-- There is no written notification of the rescinding of this new rule that he could share with me.
-- The website was recently changed from, effectively, "Canadian water" to "Canada", which means that the rules only apply to landing/mooring/anchoring in Canada.

Here is a link to the official page from the CBSA:

http://cbsa.gc.ca/publications/pub/bsf5082-eng.html#s2x1

The critical part is here:

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Telephone reporting centres
If you arrive in Canada by general aviation aircraft (carrying no more than 15 people including crew) or by private boat, you must report to the CBSA using a telephone reporting centre (TRC) prior to your arrival, and you must land at a designated port of entry. In an emergency situation, such as under severe weather conditions, you may have to land your boat or aircraft at a place that is not designated. In this case, you have to report your circumstances to the nearest CBSA office or to the RCMP. For more information, refer to the publication called Coming to Canada by Small Aircraft or Recreational Boat that is available on the CBSA Web site at www.cbsa.gc.ca under "Publications and forms".

So, the net is that (today) if you don't moor, land, anchor, step foot in Canada, there is no requirement to call in, get a number, provide ID, etc.

Check this thread as we get closer to each St. Clair tournament for late breaking news.

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